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- | -- Main.EbusInfo - 2010-03-05 | ||
- | ===== B5h 05h – Burner Operational Data ===== | ||
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- | This Broadcast informs about the operational data of the burner control unit. It seems to be a Vaillant specific variant of Service 08h 01h. | ||
- | <table bordercolor''"# | ||
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- | **Master/ Slave Byte-No.** | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | **Abbrev.** | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | **Description** | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | **Unit** | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | **Range** | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | **Type/ [Res.]** | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | **Repl. Value** | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | **Note** | ||
- | </td> </tr> <tr valign''" | ||
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- | M1 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | Source address | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> </tr> <tr valign''" | ||
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- | M2 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | ZZ '' | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | Target address | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> </tr> <tr valign''" | ||
- | |||
- | M3 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | PB '' | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | Vaillant command | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> </tr> <tr valign''" | ||
- | |||
- | M4 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | SB '' | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | Burner Operational Data? | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> </tr> <tr valign''" | ||
- | |||
- | M5 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | NN '' | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | Length of data | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> </tr> <tr valign''" | ||
- | |||
- | M6 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | xx '' | ||
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- | xx '' | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | unknown | ||
- | </td> </tr> <tr> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | M7 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | yy '' | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | unknown | ||
- | </td> </tr> <tr> <td width''" | ||
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- | M8 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | CRC | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> </tr> <tr valign''" | ||
- | |||
- | M9 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | SYN | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> </tr> </ | ||
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- | **Master/ Slave Byte-No.** | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | **Abbrev.** | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | **Description** | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | **Unit** | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | **Range** | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | **Type/ [Res.]** | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | **Repl. Value** | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | **Note** | ||
- | </td> </tr> <tr valign''" | ||
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- | M1 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | Source address | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | VRS620 | ||
- | </td> </tr> <tr valign''" | ||
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- | M2 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | ZZ '' | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | Target address | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> </tr> <tr valign''" | ||
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- | M3 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | PB '' | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | Vaillant command | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> </tr> <tr valign''" | ||
- | |||
- | M4 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | SB '' | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | Burner Operational Data | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> </tr> <tr valign''" | ||
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- | M5 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | NN '' | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | Length of data | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> </tr> <tr> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | M6 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | xx '' | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | (unknown) | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | unknown | ||
- | </td> </tr> <tr> <td width''" | ||
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- | M7 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | Bit0 '' | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | BYTE | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | 00h, 01h | ||
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- | This bit is active when service water is loaded. | ||
- | </td> </tr> <tr> <td width''" | ||
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- | M8 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | VT | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | Lead water temperature | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | °C | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | 0-89 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | CHAR | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | 5A h | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | Vorlauftemperatur IST HK1 | ||
- | |||
- | VF1-Fühler | ||
- | </td> </tr> <tr> <td width''" | ||
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- | M9 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | Bit0 '' | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | BYTE | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | 00h, 01h | ||
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- | This bit seems to be synchronous to M7 Bit0. | ||
- | </td> </tr> <tr> <td width''" | ||
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- | M10 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | CRC | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> </tr> <tr valign''" | ||
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- | M11 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | SYN | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> </tr> </ | ||
- | |||
- | .M6 xx'' | ||
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- | ==== Block 36h – Unknown ==== | ||
- | <table cellspacing''" | ||
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- | **Master/ Slave Byte-No.** | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | **Abbrev.** | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | **Description** | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | **Unit** | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | **Range** | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | **Type/ [Res.]** | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | **Repl. Value** | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | **Note** | ||
- | </td> </tr> <tr valign''" | ||
- | |||
- | M1 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | Source address | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | 10h | ||
- | </td> </tr> <tr valign''" | ||
- | |||
- | M2 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | ZZ | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | Target address | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | FEh | ||
- | </td> </tr> <tr valign''" | ||
- | |||
- | M3 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | PB '' | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | Vaillant command | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | B5h | ||
- | </td> </tr> <tr valign''" | ||
- | |||
- | M4 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | SB '' | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | Get Data Block | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | 04h | ||
- | </td> </tr> <tr valign''" | ||
- | |||
- | M5 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | NN '' | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | Length of data | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | 01h | ||
- | </td> </tr> <tr valign''" | ||
- | |||
- | M6 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | DB '' | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | Block 06h | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | 06h | ||
- | </td> </tr> <tr> <td> | ||
- | |||
- | M7 | ||
- | </td> <td> | ||
- | |||
- | NN | ||
- | </td> <td> | ||
- | |||
- | On/OFF?? | ||
- | </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td> | ||
- | |||
- | Zubegin von Einmaliger Speicherladung mit 01h und zum Ende 00h | ||
- | |||
- | 00h / 01h | ||
- | </td> </tr> <tr valign''" | ||
- | |||
- | M8 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | CRC | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
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- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | D9h | ||
- | </td> </tr> </ | ||
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- | <table cellspacing''" | ||
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- | **Master/ Slave Byte-No.** | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | **Abbrev.** | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | **Description** | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | **Unit** | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | **Range** | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | **Type/ [Res.]** | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | **Repl. Value** | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | **Note** | ||
- | </td> </tr> <tr valign''" | ||
- | |||
- | M1 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | Source address | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | VRS620 | ||
- | </td> </tr> <tr valign''" | ||
- | |||
- | M2 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | ZZ '' | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | Target address | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> </tr> <tr valign''" | ||
- | |||
- | M3 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | PB '' | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | Vaillant command | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> </tr> <tr valign''" | ||
- | |||
- | M4 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | SB '' | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | Burner Operational Data | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> </tr> <tr valign''" | ||
- | |||
- | M5 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | NN '' | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | Length of data | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> </tr> <tr> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | M6 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | xx '' | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | (unknown) | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | unknown | ||
- | </td> </tr> <tr> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | M7 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | gesehen 0Fh | ||
- | </td> </tr> <tr> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | M8 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | gesehen 01h | ||
- | </td> </tr> <tr> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | M9 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | gesehen 00h | ||
- | </td> </tr> <tr> < | ||
- | |||
- | M14 | ||
- | </td> <td width''" | ||
- | |||
- | CRC | ||
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- | ==== Block 3C - VR 81 remote control unit for VRC 430(f)/ | ||
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- | This frame can be used to determine the current room temperature reliably. The target room temperature and the current heating status (off, day, night) can be found in the frame (qq'' |